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jeffgibson
07/22/2004, 11:13 AM
For those of you out there that are not using screen protectors, are you finding that your screens are getting scratched or damaged in any way? I have been using a screen protector since I got my Treo a couple of months ago but hate the look and feel of the protector. I only use it because I am afraid that my screen will get scratched. I am probably being over protective as I only use the stylus or my finger for screen opperations and I always use the leather slide case from Palm to carry the Treo.

What are people's thoughts and/or experiences?

dstrauss
07/22/2004, 11:19 AM
I can't imagine going unprotected (try Boxwaves - no screen distortion) because my Treo is in my pocket at all times, WITHOUT a case. For safety, it's the only thing in that pocket (keys, change, etc are banned).

Even without carying considerations, writing on the screen will eventually result in a scratch, and if you use Jot or another screen writing program, you'll eventually wear a spot on the screen - look at any well used Palm unit's grafitti area.

CojonesDeToro
07/22/2004, 11:24 AM
What are people's thoughts and/or experiences?

I'm not a heavy user and have found that screen protectors are not worth it for me. By the time the screen shows any wear, I'm ready to trade up to another platform. I've had my Treo for a few weeks now with no visibale scratching.

BTW: Has anyone tried that 'as seen on TV' scratch removal stuff? I've seen the commercials but have not paid enough attention to know the name. They show it being used on scratched eyeglasses. I bet it could be googled if I new the name.... maybe this?

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/7onyourside/wabc_7side_030404_liquidlens.html

doesn't sound promising...

ddvitale
07/22/2004, 11:42 AM
I've never used screen protectors on any of my other PDA's -- but since this is a smartphone - and pressed up against my face when I'm on a call - I have to continuously clean the screen - which means the danger of scratching is much greater - so I'm getting used to screen protectors - but I don't like them very much.

brainodo
07/22/2004, 12:30 PM
Prior to my Treo, I had a Palm VIIx for several years. I initially used screen protection, but after a couple months I decided to go without it. When I retired my VIIx about a month ago, I looked at the screen and expecially the grafitti area and there was only one noticable scratch. I thought that it held up very well. I am using a screen protector on my Treo now, but since it does not have a grafitti area I will probably go bare after the screen protector wears out. :D

smithj41
07/22/2004, 12:45 PM
I have had mine since 11/2/2003 and do not use protectors and have not experienced any issues.

jmill72x
07/22/2004, 12:55 PM
I use the Boxwave and love it. There is no screen distortion or color/brightness washout at all. Plus, it's got a slightly matte feel, which not only reduces glare but gives a more "paper-like" feel when you use the stylus.

Plus, at like $15 for a 3 pack, why not make the investment to ensure that you don't damage the screen?

zoomer777
07/22/2004, 02:56 PM
After spending a fortune on "mobile" gadgets, I found myself questioning the reason why I spend so much more money on accessories for "protection". The manufacturers of these devices need to make these devices strong enough to withstand the use they were intended for! Problem is, I know manufacturers don't always do this. The Treo 300 was not designed well in terms of ruggedness...it looked years old after several months of use, so I was worried about the 600 being just as fragile to cosmetic damage. FORTUNATELY, the Treo 600 has proved to be very tough. I have had mine since October 03 (when they were first released!), and aside from the ESN sticker on back peeling up a touch at the corners, it has no scratches anywhere (not on the plastic, nor on the screen!). I have used no special case, nor screen "protectors" - and it has held through it all. I haven't even really babied it much (only at first). So, thanks to Handspring for getting it right!

jmill72x
07/22/2004, 03:07 PM
Handspring definitely got it right with the 600. It feels very solid and doesn't seem cheap at all. That being said, scratches are so easy to come by that I feel better knowing that it's there. I'd rather spend the $15 on a set of screen protectors that I don't even notice are there than on some shareware that doesn't quite do what I'm looking for.

I am also paying Sprint the extra $4 a month for the replacement program as well. And I've never purchased a case for a phone before but made sure I had the I-volution before the Treo went into heavy usage. I guess it's just to make sure mine looks mint for the eBay pics when the Ace comes out.

bcaslis
07/22/2004, 03:26 PM
Being used as a phone as well as a PDA, I wouldn't use the Treo without a screen protector. I really hate the anti-glare ones since they take a small sharp glare and turn it into a large milkly glare. I've tried lots of different ones and use to prefer the one that slip under the edges but found that if water gets under them when you are cleaning the screen you are hosed. The ones that are perfect for me are the Martin Fields overlaps, which are completely clear and lightly stick to the screen. You can get them at http://www.martinfields.com/ .

PitbuLL
07/22/2004, 05:15 PM
i've tried G2 and boxwave. The G2 isn't a good idea if you carry your treo in you pockets since dirt gets under them and makes more scratches than you'd ever have. Boxwave on the other hand does a perfect job of keepin the screen scratch-free, and as mentionned above, i also like the paper-like feeling it gives.

Robert K.
07/23/2004, 10:40 AM
Ever since my Qualcomm pdQ screen (especially the graffiti area) got all scratched up by the stylus I have never touched the screen of any of my subsequent pdaphones (6035, Treo 300, 7135, Treo 600) without first applying a screen protector. That is always the first thing I do when I take my new toy out of the box :)

I currently use Strong Engineering's screen protectors.

heberman
07/23/2004, 11:35 AM
Sometimes my small children play games or use the drawing programs on my Treo 600. I tell them to be careful, but my screen protector gives me peace of mind to let them have some fun on the Treo.

bassplayer
07/23/2004, 12:25 PM
I also use a screen protector on my T600 - the ones from TC, 3 for $15. No case and the thing is in my pocket (without keys, coins, etc.). IMHO, the display is not compromised with the protector on.

I know this is OT, but I gotta say...
Heberman, that avatar cracks me up every time I see it.

heberman
07/23/2004, 12:38 PM
I know this is OT, but I gotta say...
Heberman, that avatar cracks me up every time I see it.

I guess the "dark side" of me likes to annoy people. :D :D

Treoguy1234
07/23/2004, 01:21 PM
my screen protector gets very dirty, and i was wondering can you clean it anyway?

BoxWave
08/02/2004, 07:09 PM
cingularguy1234,

Have you taken off your screen protector to wash it with mild hand soap and water? Please don't do it with it still on your Treo ;), but it helps to occasionally give it a good cleaning like that. But I only suggest this for the screen protectors that you know that can be washed and reused.

And for the masses - last week we just released ClearTouch Crystal (http://www.boxwave.com/products/cleartouchcrystal/index.htm) which is available for the Treo 600. It's been designed to retain the clarity of your 600, just the way you like it. So check it out. Let me know what you guys think if you already have it.

Best Regards,
Abe

Ancient_One
08/02/2004, 07:44 PM
I am of 2 minds with screen protectors but found that under normal use the Treo doesn't require it but........I like to play games on my Treo while travelling to and from work on the trains. This requires constant use of the stylus to a degree that when using screen protectors I see obvious damage to them. I would hate to think what my constant game playing would do to a bare Treo screen.

I now use the screen protectors.

TerpFan
08/02/2004, 08:05 PM
I'm real happy with the JAVOedge JAVOscreen protector. It's on my second Treo 600 handset and holding-up like a champ. It was a little hard to get it off the screen to clean and place on the new unit, but I eventually got it taken care of.

Cory J
08/02/2004, 08:43 PM
I didn't really care for the screen protectors when I tried them. My favorite solution is to keep it bare and protect it with a sunglass cloth bag when it's in my pocket. The bag doubles as a cleaning cloth for lenses, so it is scratch resistant. I did a search online and found this one (http://www.sunglasshut.com/sghus.cfm?dir=templates&page=productpage&sitecategory=sunglasses&nproductid=103687&Session=8545366) as an example.

JoJo_78
08/04/2004, 04:30 AM
Well I can testify to what playing Cubis on your Treo does to the screen.
My screen was properly scratched (before the accident).
The scratches were from one side of the screen to the other in a downward half-circular motion...(which is how you take the cubes from one point to the other in Cubis).
When you play Cubis you are forced to a bit of pressure on the screen or else the cube is released...you can also use the 5-way but it's slower and normally run out of time.

By the time I realise what I did to my baby it was too late.
I stopped playing Cubis (as much as I hated it cause I love the diggon game) b/c the screen even felt funny in that area.

peyote
08/30/2004, 05:39 PM
which one to get between:
clear touch crystal
clear touch

one's more clear & other more anti-glare. for those who've used one or other or both, i need advice before i buy? ideas?
thanks-

jeffgibson
08/30/2004, 06:06 PM
Well since the beginning of this thread, I have not been using a screen protector. :eek:

All is well. I have NO scratches. I do however keep my Treo in one of the horizontal cases from Palm 100% of its storage time. (ie never in my pocket). I also clean my screen with one of the microfiber towels that came with my sunglasses. Seems to work just fine.

Thanks to all for your experiences and input on this subject. :cool:

puyi
08/30/2004, 06:19 PM
Been using Martin Fields Overlay Plus (5Mos.) in combo with egrips Fullback (b4 I used the original version) and I feel perfectly secure slipping this into my front pocket with loose change.

Also, with the protector I clean the screen more often than I did with the naked screen - B4, I would have to create a mini workspace, get out my eyeglass cloths and retentively clean the screen.

JoJo_78
08/30/2004, 06:43 PM
I have the Clear Touch Crystal for over a week or two and I love it.
I did not care for the glare protection as it makes the screen look hazy.
I can play one of my favorite game (Cubis) with no worries as I mentioned before.
I messed up the screen pretty badly on my previous Treo.

The ClearTouch Crystal seem strong and durable. I ordered 3 and I'm guessing I won't be ordering any refills for a while.

BoxWave
08/30/2004, 08:29 PM
JoJo,
Glad to hear that the ClearTouch Crystal is working well for you. I was wondering the other day how things turned out. :D

Cheers,
Abe

randyagent
08/30/2004, 09:55 PM
Once you get them on you cant tell that you have a screen protector on. It is perfect if you use a case like the Vaja Ivolution.

JoJo_78
09/01/2004, 12:49 AM
Yes...everything worked out fine Abe.
Thanks a mil :D

Escapade
09/26/2004, 03:53 AM
Boxwave, is that screen protector available in Canada (Vancouver)? If not, how much is the shipping charge?

superfire
09/26/2004, 04:45 PM
i tried to use the tap to pull the boxwave screen protector out from the treo600. but i guess tap was not strong enough or my skill sucked.

any tips to life up the boxwave screen protector once it is applied on treo 600?

heberman
09/26/2004, 05:27 PM
The first time I removed my Boxwave, using tape worked. The second time, I could not remove it with tape, or even duct tape. I finally ended up using a toothpick. I was worried about damaging my screen, but I was careful and it worked out ok.

mrgarza
09/26/2004, 06:06 PM
I just bought the palmone brand. They cost a bit @ $20 a pack, but you get 13. They come with template so you can cut them to fit any palmone unit including treo 600. Plus you bearly notice its on!

rossoneri
09/26/2004, 06:07 PM
Boxwave, is that screen protector available in Canada (Vancouver)? If not, how much is the shipping charge?

ask boxwave :) i bought this screen protector (i am in ottawa) and it is the 2nd best investment for my treo. the first is the innopocket metal case. with the metal case and the boxwave, the treo is as good as brand new. resale value will be good ;)

Escapade
09/27/2004, 02:27 AM
Thanks rossoneri. I am thinking of ordering the one on Palmone Canadian website. I am a bit leary about ordering anything from the US because of duty and shipping. I had a really bad experience with one of my e-bay purchases.

mrgarza, that one would probably work for me. How long have you had it? Does it stick well with no bubble?

rossoneri
09/27/2004, 10:21 AM
Thanks rossoneri. I am thinking of ordering the one on Palmone Canadian website. I am a bit leary about ordering anything from the US because of duty and shipping. I had a really bad experience with one of my e-bay purchases.

mrgarza, that one would probably work for me. How long have you had it? Does it stick well with no bubble?

there won't be any duty on a piece of plastic. the boxwave didn't get stopped at customs or anything. it came in the mail like a regular letter. the boxwave cleartouch is a tad expensive compared to the other screen protectors but i think there's a reason for it - it's damn good. once i put it on, i haven't taken it off yet and there are no scratches oven on the cleartouch. on the other hand, my previous PDA had a sony screen protector and even that started to develop scratches.


ps: as for the bubbles from regular screen protectors, they go away in a while. they aren't permanent

bilbo__baggins
10/03/2004, 03:48 PM
I've never used a screen protector, but I do keep my treo in the slip case supplied with the phone by Orange.

I've not noticed any problems or scratches, I've just cleaned it occasionally when it looks too smeary.

PS. Had my treo since Oct 2003.

WildCard
10/03/2004, 04:41 PM
I carry mine in my pocket uncased and un-screen-protected (without keys and coins..). Is the inside of your pocket really much more abrasive than the sunglass bag?

BTW Boxwave, that clear product you have is pretty amazing looking. It's $15.45 each shipped to me in Wisconsin, but if it is practically unnoticable, I think I might try it. I am one of those that dislikes the bumpy feel of most protectors.

-WC-

BoxWave
10/05/2004, 07:33 PM
WildCard,

Yes, ClearTouch Crystal (http://www.boxwave.com/products/cleartouchcrystal/index.htm) is definitely smooth and clear. I've seen pics of where people have had two devices side by side, one with Crystal and one "naked." It was hard to tell which one actually had the Crystal on the screen!

Cheers,
Abe

dbshrink
10/25/2004, 08:38 PM
Has anyone heard of or seen a keypad template for the treo 600? What I mean is something like a screen protector, but with gaps where the phone numerals lie on the screen, so you can "dial by feel" the way you could with a phone that has mechanical keys for the numerals. I use the treo in my car in an installed kit while driving a stickshift, and the less I'm looking at the phone the more likely I'll be around to hear your replies. Thanks.

shoff
10/27/2004, 07:34 PM
I just bought the screen protectors from TreoCentral. 3 pac for $15.95. I hope they're ok.

cglaguna
10/27/2004, 07:45 PM
I am heavy user and never used one on my 600. Purchased first week it was out. The screen seems tougher than prior models, I did scratch my 270 screen. I have never noticed any scratches on the 600 screen surface. If I get a 650, I will probably use one, after reading all of these posts.

carbonnigel
11/03/2004, 03:56 PM
Hey guys... what is the point of getting a screen protector anyway!!!
Just take a look on the site and you will soon realize that the Treo 600 will break before you probably scratch your screen!!! I am on my 5th Treo 600!!!